<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’m not disputing the great effort put into this.<div class="">My dispute is that it should be under the openssl list command…..</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree, this shouldn’t have been a “good first issue”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Pauli<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Sep 2019, at 3:49 pm, Richard Levitte <<a href="mailto:levitte@openssl.org" class="">levitte@openssl.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">... or how our usual style of dispute can sometimes deter help from<br class="">the community.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/9912" class="">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/9912</a><br class=""><br class="">In this PR, there's a lot of discussions going on, a bit back an<br class="">forth, about the right way to do things, and what does what like what<br class="">other thing and so on.<br class=""><br class="">This is often our modus operandi, and it has often given us pretty<br class="">good quality code (or at least, so we hope), even though it can be a<br class="">bit exhausting at times.<br class=""><br class="">I would like to emphasise that I think this is absolutely fine...<br class="">when it's among us who have been along for a bit, perhaps have come to<br class="">know each other a bit more and have some kind of sense of our<br class="">respective strengths and weaknesses, or even with someone that has<br class="">shown they can handle this type of discussion.<br class=""><br class="">However, in pull requests like the one cited, where the associated<br class="">issue is marked "good first issue", and the author has done quite well<br class="">what was asked from the issue, it can be quite unexpected, not to say<br class="">overwhelming to be met with this discussion style that could be seen<br class="">as getting out of proportion. A "good first issue" is supposed to be<br class="">a bite size thing after all, and I fear that if this is how we welcome<br class="">new contributors, they might more often than not choose to step away<br class="">from it all.<br class=""><br class="">So maybe let's be a little more careful with contributions for "good<br class="">first issue" and potential newcomers, yeah?<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Richard<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Richard Levitte levitte@openssl.org<br class="">OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>