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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 14 Feb 2020, at 7:37 pm, Matt Caswell <<a href="mailto:matt@openssl.org" class="">matt@openssl.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 14/02/2020 02:30, Dr Paul Dale wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">There is some pushback against the deprecations going on in various PRs.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I've not followed all of the PRs. Can you point at some specific<br class="">comments you've received pushing back on this?<br class=""><br class="">Matt<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">The plan has always been to deprecate engines in 3.0 and removing<br class="">support for them 5+ years later.  Originally, the path was to have<br class="">included an engine provider that could load engines and make them appear<br class="">to be a provider.  After a fair amount of investigation, this was deemed<br class="">to be too difficult in the 3.0 time frame.<br class=""><br class="">Do we still want to deprecate engines in 3.0?<br class="">Should we defer until 4.0 instead?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The main benefits seem to boil down to continuing to support existing<br class="">engines vs removing the legacy code paths and switching to the provider<br class="">model.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Pauli<br class="">-- <br class="">Dr Paul Dale | Distinguished Architect | Cryptographic Foundations <br class="">Phone +61 7 3031 7217<br class="">Oracle Australia<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>