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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No. You can check with the OpenSSH mailing list, but I’m pretty darned sure the answer is no.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-bounces@openssl.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Tremblay<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2016 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> openssl-users@openssl.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openssl-users] Enabling FIPS on an custom embedded system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the quick reply.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is what I had understand from my reading but wasn't sure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My next question is about OpenSSH. There is no official support in OpenSSH for FIPS at the moment right ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Steve Marquess <<a href="mailto:marquess@openssl.com" target="_blank">marquess@openssl.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/26/2016 04:37 PM, Eric Tremblay wrote:<br>
> Hi all,____<br>
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> I have built the FIPS module into our Platform but I am stuck at the<br>
> point to enable it.____<br>
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> We need FIPS to be enabled « Platform wide » not just for one<br>
> application.____<br>
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> I have read the documentation and search on the web for answer but it<br>
> seem that I would have ____<br>
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> to modify a package or write a small application just to enable FIPS.____<br>
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> Is there another way to enable it on startup of Linux ? or maybe<br>
> something in OpenSSH ?____<br>
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> I also read about the OPENSSL_Config in the User Guide but I’m not sure<br>
> if/who and how it is called.____<br>
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> I am working with OpenSSL 1.0.2j and FIPS 2.0.9.____<br>
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Hmmm ... where to start.<br>
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First there is really no such thing as "enabling FIPS" for a platform.<br>
The FIPS module is executable code that runs in the context of a<br>
process, and to be righteous FIPS-wise each process (that uses<br>
cryptography) must invoke the FIPS_mode_set() call that performs the<br>
mandatory POST (Power Up Self Test). Note that is true even when the<br>
FIPS module is embedded in a shared library (the "FIPS enabled"<br>
OpenSSL), as each process using said shared library maps writable data<br>
into its own private address space.<br>
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So to make the sweeping claim that a "platform" is FIPS enabled, you<br>
must make sure that *every* process for that platform enables FIPS mode<br>
via a FIPS_mode_set() call (whether directly or indirectly). Note that<br>
for your typical general purpose (e.g. Windows or Linux-like) operating<br>
system that is an essentially unachievable goal, as not all of the many<br>
crypto-using applications are readily converted to use the FIPS enabled<br>
OpenSSL (for instance OpenSSH needs non-trivial hacks). Likewise<br>
kernel-mode crypto can't be addressed with the OpenSSL FIPS module.<br>
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For that reason the wise and prudent vendor does not attempt to "enable<br>
FIPS" for an entire platform (for Level 1 validations), but rather only<br>
makes claims about specific individual applications running on that<br>
platform.<br>
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In the case where all processes of interest are compatible with the FIPS<br>
capable OpenSSL (specifically, not referencing any other crypto<br>
implementations, or non-approved cryptographic operations), then<br>
OPENSSL_config() can in principle be used to indirectly call<br>
FIPS_mode_set() for each such application. That is only *after* every<br>
such application/process has *first* been modified for compatibility<br>
with the FIPS capable OpenSSL. Very few applications not already<br>
designed to support the OpenSSL FIPS module will be compatible without<br>
some degree of modification.<br>
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-Steve M.<br>
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