<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The exact same points apply to EVP_MAC & EVP_KDF.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We have also been telling people “use EVP” for ages.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Jul 2020, at 3:20 pm, Richard Levitte <<a href="mailto:levitte@openssl.org" class="">levitte@openssl.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">A couple of points:<br class=""><br class="">1. Quite a while ago, we (the team at the time) made a decision to<br class=""> have all new APIs prefixed with 'OPENSSL_' or 'OSSL_'. It seems<br class=""> that we never voted on it, though, but still.<br class=""><br class="">2. The new RAND API hasn't been merged yet, so it's not like we're<br class=""> renaming something that already exists.<br class=""><br class="">So in terms of "it's just a prefix", OSSL_ would be just as suitable.<br class="">It's a bit more blatantly "OpenSSL", though.<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Richard<br class=""><br class="">On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 23:30:25 +0200,<br class="">Tim Hudson wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Placing everything under EVP is reasonable in my view. It is just a prefix and it really has no<br class="">meaning these days as it became nothing more than a common prefix to use.<br class=""><br class="">I don't see any significant benefit in renaming at this point - even for RAND.<br class=""><br class="">Tim.<br class=""><br class="">On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, 1:56 am Matt Caswell, <<a href="mailto:matt@openssl.org" class="">matt@openssl.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> On 23/07/2020 16:52, Richard Levitte wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 12:18:10 +0200,<br class="">Dr Paul Dale wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">There has been a suggestion to rename EVP_RAND to OSSL_RAND. This seems reasonable. Would<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> it<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">also make sense to rename the other new APIs similarly.<br class="">More specifically, EVP_MAC and EVP_KDF to OSSL_MAC and OSSL_KDF respectively?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">This is a good question...<br class=""><br class="">Historically speaking, even though EVP_MAC and EVP_KDF are indeed new<br class="">APIs, they have a previous history of EVP APIs, through EVP_PKEY. The<br class="">impact of relocating them outside of the EVP "family" may be small,<br class="">but still, history gives me pause.<br class=""><br class="">RAND doesn't carry the same sort of history, which makes it much<br class="">easier for me to think "just do it and get it over with"...<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""> I have the same pause - so I'm thinking just RAND for now.<br class=""><br class=""> Matt<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>-- <br class="">Richard Levitte <a href="mailto:levitte@openssl.org" class="">levitte@openssl.org</a><br class="">OpenSSL Project <a href="http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/" class="">http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>