[openssl-project] OpenSSL 3.0 and FIPS Update
Dmitry Belyavsky
beldmit at gmail.com
Mon Feb 25 07:07:11 UTC 2019
Dear Michael,
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 2:41 AM Michael Richardson <mcr at sandelman.ca> wrote:
>
> Not sure who Matt quoted, wrote:
> >> 2. Can we do something with a bunch of hard-linked non-extendable
> >> lists of internal NIDs?
> >>
> >> For example, providing GOST algorithms always requires a patch to
> >> extend 3-5
> >> internal lists.
> >> If it could be done dynamically, it will be great.
>
> Matt then wrote:
> > The simplest solution is to submit a PR to add your OIDs to OpenSSL,
> > so that no furher out of tree patches are required.
>
> Viktor Dukhovni <openssl-users at dukhovni.org> wrote:
> > Dynamic NIDs don't fit very well into the design, because NIDs are
> > expected to be stable compile-time constants. We could perhaps
> > reserve a range for "private-use", and "engines" could allocate new
> > NIDs in the private space at runtime. The key question is whether
> > such NIDs are global or valid only if returned to the same engine
> > (provider, ...). If not global, the allocation might be static
> > within the engine, and not require any locks.
>
> Having stubbed my toe on some NID stuff, I must question exposting NIDs.
> ruby-openssl used them in a dumb way that meant that adding extensions by
> OID
> was broken until I removed some code.
>
> I think that the #define/enum of NIDs should be made internal-only,
> available as optimization to internal code only.
> Your question then becomes, "are engines internal users", and I'd like the
> answer to be no. I think that the openssl 3 changes suggest the same thing.
>
The engines are _mostly_ external users. But sometimes, providing new
algorithms,
there appear some parts that should go into the core part. And regulation
creates similar problems.
All other users can call OBJ_obj2nid() or OBJ_txt2nid() to get a NID,
> and we can figure out how to allocate things dynamically if this makes
> sense. I don't know which APIs are currently NID-only.
AFAIK, no external API, but there are some cases when external API does not
cover all.
--
SY, Dmitry Belyavsky
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