Goodbye

[Dan Kegel]

There's nothing wrong with being inclusive.  Buildbot
was not harmed by removing the word 'slave' from
its codebase.
- Dan

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM Donald R Laster Jr <don_sfw at dlaster.com>
wrote:

> Dan,
>
>    The words "slave" and "master" have no negative or positive
> connotations in relation to software or even hardware.  They are simply
> description of the purpose/function of the software or hardware.
>
>    As I said this is nothing but classic political correctness. People
> need to stop being offended at things which are not offensive.  This is no
> different than someone getting offended at the use of the words "servant"
> and "master", or "boss" and "employee", or "parent" and "child".  Changing
> the software and documentation simply because someone does not like the use
> of appropriate terms is a waste of time.  And likely to create problems in
> the future due to changes that serve no purpose.
>
>    Don
>
> Dan Kegel wrote on 07/04/2020 02:09 PM:
> > It might be worth reminding folks of
> > https://www.openssl.org/community/conduct.html
> > which says
> > "We strive to be an open and inclusive community where anyone can
> contribute."
> > - Dan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM Donald R Laster Jr <don_sfw at dlaster.com
> <mailto:don_sfw at dlaster.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Having just noticed the last 4 or 5 emails related to this thread I
> have to say this is classic political correctness garbage.
> >         Don
> >
> >     Dan Kegel wrote on 07/04/2020 11:35 AM:
> >      > Likewise.  Thank you, Rich!
> >      >
> >      > When this issue came up in Buildbot 5 years ago, there was a fair
> bit of... discussion, see
> >      > http://trac.buildbot.net/ticket/2340
> >      > The resolution back then was to rename 'slave' to 'worker', which
> was a LOT of
> >      > work, and seemed to satisfy everybody at the time.
> >      > It came up again recently, see
> >      > https://github.com/buildbot/buildbot/issues/5382
> >      > and they're now looking at whether and how to address the word
> 'master'.
> >      >
> >      > Not having noticed this discussion in openssl until today, here's
> my two cents as an openssl user:
> >      > I think an incremental approach is fine, clean up the most
> offensive word or two
> >      > first, and then see where things land.  And if it can't start
> immediately, that's
> >      > ok, it took buildbot a while to come up with the needed consensus
> and
> >      > elbow grease.
> >      > - Dan
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:10 PM Eliot Lear <
> lear at ofcourseimright.com <mailto:lear at ofcourseimright.com> <mailto:
> lear at ofcourseimright.com <mailto:lear at ofcourseimright.com>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     Can we please put the knives a way?  Rich has given a lot to
> this
> >      >     community.  As an openssl user, I'd rather the conversation
> moved along.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >
> >     --
>
>
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