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On 20/03/2023 10:16, Dr. Matthias St. Pierre via openssl-users
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Matthias.St.Pierre@ncp-e.com">Matthias.St.Pierre@ncp-e.com</a> 0 8 12
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I admit that I'm not posting very often to the list, but I'm scanning all subject lines in my
inbox every workday and read all post which catch my interest.
As I wrote previously: what I like about this list is that it is a list with an active community.
It has a very different audience and very often it's users who answer questions by other users.
Newbie questions are treated kindly and questions are answered with patience. Often there
are questions concerning not so commonly used platforms, which are answered by other users
who are familiar with that platform.
This is a valuable contribution by our user base and keeps some of the support burden
off the core team. So why cut off this valuable resource? If the GitHub enthusiasts don't
care for the mailing list anymore, all they need to do is to sign off and ignore it.
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I concur with Matthias and think that closing this mailing list is a
bad idea.<br>
I scan the mails from this list daily and have no wish to start
watching an entire forum on github.<br>
Thus, if this mailing list is closed, my (admittedly infrequent)
contributions to OpenSSL user support will simply end. <br>
If the OpenSSL team wishes to annoy/scare users away, then by all
means, go ahead and close the list. However, if the OpenSSL teams
values the importance of community building then this mailing list
should not be closed.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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JJK / Jan Just Keijser<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">-----Original Message-----
From: openssl-users <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openssl-users-bounces@openssl.org"><openssl-users-bounces@openssl.org></a> On Behalf Of Eldon Stegall
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 4:00 AM
To: Tim Hudson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tjh@cryptsoft.com"><tjh@cryptsoft.com></a>
Cc: openssl-users <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openssl-users@openssl.org"><openssl-users@openssl.org></a>
Subject: Re: OpenSSL project is considering to close this mailing list
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:19:20AM +1000, Tim Hudson wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">If we look at the activity since 1-Jan-2022 (last year + this year to date)
and count the questions/posts and questions/posts-replied-to and total
interactions you get this list (for those who have had more than 5
questions/posts they have replied to.
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matt@openssl.org">matt@openssl.org</a> 25 51 118
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tomas@openssl.org">tomas@openssl.org</a> 3 47 96
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openssl-users@dukhovni.org">openssl-users@dukhovni.org</a> 0 45 85
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pauli@openssl.org">pauli@openssl.org</a> 0 16 38
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Michael.Wojcik@microfocus.com">Michael.Wojcik@microfocus.com</a> 1 14 64
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:levitte@openssl.org">levitte@openssl.org</a> 0 9 10
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Matthias.St.Pierre@ncp-e.com">Matthias.St.Pierre@ncp-e.com</a> 0 8 12
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:beldmit@gmail.com">beldmit@gmail.com</a> 0 7 12
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mcr@sandelman.ca">mcr@sandelman.ca</a> 1 6 24
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:it@von-Oheimb.de">it@von-Oheimb.de</a> 0 6 9
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi Tim,
Given this list, and the previous statement:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">We are seeking input on this potential change if you are currently
actively contributing on openssl-users mailing list discussion and *you*
*believe such a change would substantially reduce your participation in*
*the project*.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">You had the list of people whose responses mattered to you. If you were
only soliciting feedback from these people, why did you email the whole
list instead of these people directly?
I realise I am a lurker, but clearly I cherish the openssl community,
and read this list to continue learning about the project, even if I am
not quite interest in the firehose that might be github issues.
Thanks,
Eldon
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