[openssl-dev] 90-test_secmem.t hangs the machine for good

Short, Todd tshort at akamai.com
Mon May 15 17:08:13 UTC 2017


The time of the hang actually seems dependent on the number of applications running and your disk.

Since a large amount of memory becomes wired, there is very little available for programs and the OS to use (in some instances I have seen ~4MB non-wired memory). Things slow down due to swapping, etc.

In my testing:

With almost no additional programs open, the hang-time is short, ~200 seconds.
With a lot of programs open, the hang-time is increased, ~400 seconds; twice as long. And the number of swapins is 25x and the swapouts is ~34x the original test period.

This is on a machine with an SSD (late-2013 MBP)
If you have a spinning HDD, the swapins and swapouts will be significantly more expensive in terms of performance/time.

If you quit all your programs, (other than Terminal), I suspect the hang may eventually recover; but if you have a hard disk that time might be quite long.

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On May 15, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri at ll.mit.edu<mailto:uri at ll.mit.edu>> wrote:

I’m tracking the current OpenSSL master only on El Capitan 10.11.6. I could try it on Sierra 10.12.4, if you really expect it to make a difference.

In my case the hang is not for a short time. It lasts for more than 10 minutes, so I’m forced to interfere. For how long did it hang for you?
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On 5/15/17, 11:47 AM, "openssl-dev on behalf of Short, Todd via openssl-dev" <openssl-dev-bounces at openssl.org<mailto:openssl-dev-bounces at openssl.org> on behalf of openssl-dev at openssl.org<mailto:openssl-dev at openssl.org>> wrote:

We’ve been able to get some Macs (10.11.6, 8GB and 16GB) to hang for a short period of time with the unit-tests, but it eventually recovers.

What MacOS version are you running? I can try 10.12 later today.
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On May 12, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Short, Todd via openssl-dev <openssl-dev at openssl.org<mailto:openssl-dev at openssl.org>> wrote:

Uri:

Look at https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/3455

I limited the test that hung your machine to Linux.

Rich: this removes the OpenSSL_assert() you see.

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On May 12, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Short, Todd via openssl-dev <openssl-dev at openssl.org<mailto:openssl-dev at openssl.org>> wrote:

It’s trying to reserve 1<<34 bytes of memory… there goes your 16GB...
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On May 12, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <uri at ll.mit.edu<mailto:uri at ll.mit.edu>> wrote:

Todd> Yes, it’s likely this is due to the amount of memory available in the machine. I tried to use reasonable values, but apparently not reasonable enough

Yep. In case it matters, my machine has 16GB of RAM (and runs a ton of stuff, besides these tests :).
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