VOTE Apply PR#9084 reverting DEVRANDOM_WAIT

Kurt Roeckx kurt at
Fri Jun 7 18:04:55 UTC 2019

On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 01:28:30PM -0400, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> I think that having the RNG behaviour capriciously different on
> different systems based on the whims of whoever built the library
> for that system is not a good idea.  OpenSSL should provide an RNG
> that does not block "unexpectedly", indefinitely, and unpredictably.
> Where "unexpectedly", means except possibly early at boot time, but
> ideally waiting for boot-time entropoy is something that systemd
> and the like take care of, and application start scripts can just
> register a dependency on some sort of "entropy" service, whose
> successful initialization is sufficient to ensure adequately secure
> non-blocking seeding of applications via one of getentropy(),
> getrandom(), /dev/urandom...
> That is, I'd expect most of the work for ensuring adequate entropy
> to happen outside libcrypto, except for perhaps enabling some
> additional sources that may be available on various systems.

It seems unlikely that anything related to this will ever change,
but we can always ask.

The reason I think nothing will change is that the problem is
already solved, use getentropy()/getrandom(). The init system would
need to create this kind of service, and then all software not using
getentropy()/getrandom() would need to depend on that service. It
would be eaier to just switch that software to use

Changing the init system, means that this will only work for new
versions of an OS. But on those new versions we already use
getentropy()/getrandom(). What we want to support is people that
use an old OS, but run a new version of OpenSSL on it. That is,
people that do not use the OS provided OpenSSL version.


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