OTC quick votes [WAS: RE: OTC vote PR #16171: config_diagnostic]

[Dr. Matthias St. Pierre]

You probably all noticed my mistake: I meant to say 'quorum', not 'quota'.

Matthias

> -----Original Message-----
> From: openssl-project <openssl-project-bounces at openssl.org> On Behalf Of Dr. Matthias St. Pierre
> Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:26 PM
> To: Kurt Roeckx <kurt at roeckx.be>; Dr Paul Dale <pauli at openssl.org>
> Cc: openssl-project at openssl.org
> Subject: OTC quick votes [WAS: RE: OTC vote PR #16171: config_diagnostic]
>
> > I'm starting to vote -1 on anything has a vote text that looks like that, so -1.
>
> I perfectly understand Kurt's dislike of this kind of votes. The text is not very informative for OTC members who
> weren't able to participate at the weekly video meetings.
>
> IMHO it proves that the current voting mechanism does not scale well with the number of decisions that have to be made.
> The rate of those decision has increased heavily during the final phase of the 3.0 development and the weekly video meetings
> were an attempt to improve agility and get those decisions made. On the other side, the voting scheme has remained unchanged,
> mailing '+-1' replies to the mailing list within a certain time interval and recording them arduously in a GitHub repository.
>
> Maybe we need to overthink the online voting rules and optimize them slightly. For example, we could require an online
> quota in which case the online votes can be held immediately, but they would need to be documented properly with
> a meaningful subject line and ideally also a rationale. We could switch to publishing meeting protocols which document all
> online votes properly, including the rationale. Maybe those online votes could be excluded from the official participation count
> mentioned in the bylaws as indicator for OTC activity.
>
> These are just some wild thoughts for the moment. I doubt we will have time to discuss it in detail before the final 3.0 release.
> But maybe it would be a good subject for the next OTC face-to-face meeting.
>
> Matthias
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: otc <otc-bounces at openssl.org> On Behalf Of Kurt Roeckx
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 6:36 PM
> > To: Dr Paul Dale <pauli at openssl.org>
> > Cc: otc at openssl.org
> > Subject: Re: OTC vote PR #16171: config_diagnostic
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 07:03:14PM +1000, Dr Paul Dale wrote:
> > > topic: Accept PR 16171 in 3.0 subject to our normal review process.
> >
> > I'm starting to vote -1 on anything has a vote text that looks
> > like that, so -1.
> >
> > This is also send to the wrong list.
> >
> >
> > Kurt
> >
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